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UpTone Audio EtherREGEN Listening Impressions
Ponkbutler replied to mourip's topic in UpTone Audio (Sponsored)
It's not that the current goes up, but that the ER will require and draw more current for a lower voltage and the PSU may struggle to deliver it. -
John was quite clear about square wave being preferable and has not given any indication that the clock paper will mark a change of thinking. You keep repeating the above-quoted misinformation about clocks. The Mutec Ref10 is, for example, a square wave clock with a combination of outputs, but gives the preference to 75 Ohm, as you can see from the number of outputs provided: 2 x 10 MHz reference clock BNC output, 50 Ω terminated, unbalanced 6 x 10 MHz reference clock BNC output, 75 Ω terminated, unbalanced As you report different types of good external clocks result in an improvement. We have several reports of this on the forum and I have a friend who is very happy with adding a SOtM clock (sine wave and 75 Hz) to his EtherRegen. But of course no-one wants just better, we want best 😀 Also, note that whereas the SOtM clock was originally supplied with only a 50 Ohm output, they now offer both 50 and 75.
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And quite transparent about it. Moreover, from the pic at least, the OCXO is a Morion
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I can fully understand your impatience, but I really don’t think that tone is called for. After all this is more than anything else a favour to all of us in the “Uptone community” and we all know this is a period when both John and Alex have their hands full.…
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I think we could speculate endlessly on this when in the end - as audiophile consumers - it's really just a matter of what offers the best compromise or ultimate performance here and now, or what we criteria we set to determine how long to wait before pulling the trigger. FWIW an acquaintance uses a SOtM Master Clock on his ERs (so sine not square wave output) and is very pleased with the result...
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Afterdark Master Clock for Uptone EtherRegen
Ponkbutler replied to ambre's topic in AfterDark (Sponsored)
I’m not sure whether we can take any of that as more than marketing spin. In the same way that SOtM and Mutec claim the superiority of sine and square wave respectively. This section on master clock applications from an oscillator tutorial online is perhaps more relevant to digital audio: ”Microprocessor Crystal Quartz Clocks We can not finish a Quartz Crystal Oscillatorstutorial without mentioning something about Microprocessor crystal clocks. Virtually all microprocessors, micro-controllers, PICs and CPU’s generally operate using a Quartz Crystal Oscillator as its frequency determining device to generate their clock waveform because as we already know, crystal oscillators provide the highest accuracy and frequency stability compared to resistor-capacitor, (RC) or inductor-capacitor, (LC) oscillators. The CPU clock dictates how fast the processor can run and process the data with a microprocessor, PIC or micro-controller having a clock speed of 1MHz means that it can process data internally one million times per second at every clock cycle. Generally all that’s needed to produce a microprocessor clock waveform is a crystal and two ceramic capacitors of values ranging between 15 to 33pF as shown below. Microprocessor Oscillator Most microprocessors, micro-controllers and PIC’s have two oscillator pins labelled OSC1and OSC2 to connect to an external quartz crystal circuit, standard RC oscillator network or even a ceramic resonator. In this type of microprocessor application the Quartz Crystal Oscillator produces a train of continuous square wave pulses whose fundamental frequency is controlled by the crystal itself. This fundamental frequency regulates the flow of instructions that controls the processor device. For example, the master clock and system timing.” The full tutorial is here: https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/oscillator/crystal.html The 50 / 75 Ohm is to do with the former being more effective and therefore popular for long (non-audio) connections and therefore the de facto choice until audiophiles found sonic advantages to 75 with the comparatively very short connections we require. -
Afterdark Master Clock for Uptone EtherRegen
Ponkbutler replied to ambre's topic in AfterDark (Sponsored)
I am no expert whatsoever, but that does not seem to be the case. Please see here, for example: Oscillator Basics -
Afterdark Master Clock for Uptone EtherRegen
Ponkbutler replied to ambre's topic in AfterDark (Sponsored)
I had read it and following your recommendation read through it again. It does not answer my questions, thank you.