JayDog Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Again, I am not the cable expert. LAN cable is better for transfer of data, IMHO. After that, you gotta figure it out. wink. Link to comment
JayDog Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 go for it Irish, NOTRE DAME beat up on Purdue yesterday. IF, if you are going to hear a difference in clock cables, Upgrade your clock. I found the NANO to make a significant difference. I am also running a a room correction system. If you want to put your nuts on the line, go for MUTC reference series. Link to comment
simon_pepper Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 30 minutes ago, JayDog said: go for it Irish, NOTRE DAME beat up on Purdue yesterday. IF, if you are going to hear a difference in clock cables, Upgrade your clock. I found the NANO to make a significant difference. I am also running a a room correction system. If you want to put your nuts on the line, go for MUTC reference series. Not Irish, but English, I just chose to live here. I will have to process an application for naturalisation, at some point, as I want an EU Passport, and the ability to move freely, without Visa, within the EU. Something the UK had since the '70s, but threw it away. Please tell me you pronounce 'Notre Dame' as the French do, given it is a French place name dating back well before the formation of the US, and not how I hear it murdered by visiting US tourists? 😄 I considered various options for the OCXO, from a DIY solution to an ex-GSM transmitter tower unit, the LCY, and the Mutec units. So quite a price range from the $20's to the $2,500s. Hence the AfterDark units with the graded range of performance are attractive and a reasonable place to start against value-for-money. I have the King unit, so 1/3 up the AD scale, and just into the $1,000s for the unit and a few $100 for the associated power supply. This can be bettered in the future, with the likes of a Farad3, and the cables. Link to comment
Afveep Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, JayDog said: go for it Irish, NOTRE DAME beat up on Purdue yesterday. 👏👆 Tidal Audio Agoria Loudspeakers; VAC Master preamp; Merrill Audio Christine preamp, Merrill Audio Jens & VAC Renaissance Phono Preamps; Bricasti M28 & Merrill Audio Element 118 Monoblock Amplifiers; Sonore Signature RenduSE Optical network player; Bricasti M12 Source Controller/ DAC; Spiral Groove SG-2 TT with Centroid Arm & Transfiguration Proteus Diamond Cartridge; Ampex ATR-102 Reel-Reel with Merrill Audio Master tape head preamplifier; Ansuz signal and power cabling and power distribution; Symposium Isis racks INDUSTRY AFFILIATION: Dealer- XtremeFidelity.net (VAC, Bricasti, Merrill Audio, Sonore, Ansuz, Synergistic Research & others) Link to comment
MartinT Posted September 16 Author Share Posted September 16 You may well find a Tubulus Concentus provides better value than the next model clock upgrade. Don't underestimate the sound quality uplift. simon_pepper 1 TP-Link MR600 4G+ router > Uptone EtherREGEN reclocker > Sonore Signature Rendu Deluxe streamer > Gustard U18 DDC > Gustard X26 Pro DAC > Belles SA-100 power amp > Usher Dancer Be-20 speakers. AfterDark clocks x 2. Uptone JS-2 PSUs x 3. PS Audio P3 & P12 regenerators. https://theaudiostandard.net Link to comment
russellbobby Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 In my limited experience I found the clock cable made a bigger difference than any IC or Speaker, Power cord, LAN cable ever did. The Tubulus Concenta is a great cable but try the Harmonic Technology Silver first. In my system ( only clocking the DAC thru a EtherRegen to the Bricasti M3 LAN input) it was 90 percent of the Tubulus. I got off the clock go round when I bought a Mutec Nano that was inferior stock to the LHY OCK 2 I had been using and realized I had to spend another grand or so ( with cabling ) to make it sound good. I sold everything and spent 2k to upgrade my dac to a T+A DAC 200 and that was a much bigger upgrade than going the clock path. It may have been a different story if I had a streamer or a switch that could have been clocked also. Happy where I am at. 27x17x10 Golden Ratio room,EtherRegen>Melco N1A EX H60 server/streamer >T+A Dac 200>Coda CsIB > Paradigm Personas 5f, Combak Harmonica Footers, Townshend Podiums, Custom swarm sub system , Iconoclast 4x4 UPOCC XLR cable, Townshend F1 Fractal speaker cables SoTM dBl7 Ethernet cable, Puritan 156, Farad 3 LPS, Synergistic, Audience,and Triode wire labs power cabling ,Stillpoints, SR fuses,GIK Slatfusors Link to comment
simon_pepper Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, russellbobby said: The Tubulus Concenta is a great cable but try the Harmonic Technology Silver first. I went with a Crystal Clear Audio Magnum Opus 3 BNC Digital cable, bought as a ex-demo cable from Audiogon. I was looking at the Tubulus Concentus and this popped up. This cable is a 6N silver coax cable at a new price of US$1,275 it would be a bit excessive between the AfterDark OCXO unit and the EtherREGEN, but I was able to get an excellent deal, at a good fraction of list price. Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 FYI: UpTone is now stocking the technically excellent MUTEC Prime Select Cables (PSC) which are optimized for square wave clocks. We have them in both 75-Ohm and 50-Ohm versions--present stock just in the 0.75 meter length, we can quickly bring in any of their other longer (1.0m, 1.5m, 2.0m) or shorter (0.5m) upon request. $155 for the 75-Ohm, $205 for the 50-Ohm. https://uptoneaudio.com/products/mutec-psc-clock-cable-bnc Please don't ask me how they compare sonically to the various crazy-expensive voodoo cables many of you are playing with. I have no idea what you will hear but I do know that these are properly engineered and precision fabricated cables for reference clock usage. simon_pepper 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
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